Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/01/Category:Summer holidays
Are this category and its subcategory about holidays in the sense of "holy days", or in the sense of leisure/vacation? If the latter, the contents should be recategorized because the holiday categories are for the former meaning. Auntof6 (talk) 18:35, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Just as you said. I'm sorry it's my misunderstanding. Already exists, Category:Summer vacation. Thanks. --Benzoyl (talk) 03:07, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
- I was going to close and redirected to Category:Summer vacation, but now I'm having second thoughts. Category:Vacations links to Category:Tourism whereas summer holidays/vacation might simply indicate leisure time without activity/travel, etc. I wonder if we might move to Category:Summer break like Category:Spring break. We might create Category:Leisure times as a parent category for these (and Category:Weekend? and Category:Holidays?) - Themightyquill (talk) 12:52, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 and Benzoyl: What do you think of Category:Summer break? - Themightyquill (talk) 21:09, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: I don't know. The more I look at it, the more I think a lot of this content doesn't need to be specifically under vacation, and maybe not under summer, either. An example is File:Dinosaur — Wall, South Dakota (7155779812).jpg: that may have been photographed during someone's summer vacation, but it's a general image of what I assume is a tourist attraction and it doesn't illustrate summer vacation. (Although now that I look at the date, it looks like it was photographed in May, so it wasn't during summer anyway.) --Auntof6 (talk) 13:01, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: 21:09, 2 July 2019 (UTC) I agree Category:Summer break. This is nice idea. --Benzoyl (talk) 01:43, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 and Benzoyl: What do you think of Category:Summer break? - Themightyquill (talk) 21:09, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Benzoyl: I see that you renamed Category:Summer holidays in Japan to Category:Summer vacation in Japan. Please try not to rename categories that are currently being discussed. I don't think the new name fits, either. For example, some of the images of trains were photographed in summer, but there's nothing in those images that specifically says "summer" or "vacation". Another is of people doing homework: that doesn't seem to illustrate summer or vacation, either. --Auntof6 (talk) 12:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- Trains - Special events during Summer vacation. And, Homework - for (= during) en:Summer vacation (ja:夏休み) --Benzoyl (talk) 01:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Benzoyl: Are those trains used only for special summer vacation events? If so, it would be better if they were in a category for those events (like there are images in the summer camp categories), and that category were under summer vacation. Otherwise, they're just trains that are used for a lot of different things. If I went to New York City on my summer vacation and took a picture of the Empire State Building, there wouldn't be anything in the picture that illustrated summer or vacation: it would just be a picture of the building. Just because I happened to take the picture on my own personal summer vacation, that doesn't make it a summer vacation picture for Commons purposes. I wonder if something similar is the case with a lot of the images in the summer vacation categories. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:03, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- Trains - Special events during Summer vacation. And, Homework - for (= during) en:Summer vacation (ja:夏休み) --Benzoyl (talk) 01:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- I was going to close and redirected to Category:Summer vacation, but now I'm having second thoughts. Category:Vacations links to Category:Tourism whereas summer holidays/vacation might simply indicate leisure time without activity/travel, etc. I wonder if we might move to Category:Summer break like Category:Spring break. We might create Category:Leisure times as a parent category for these (and Category:Weekend? and Category:Holidays?) - Themightyquill (talk) 12:52, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think Auntof6 has a point. Aside from Category:Summer camps and possibly File:Paris - 11 rue Augereau - Café de Mars - 20140813 (1).jpg, I don't see anything that needs to be in this category. Someone camping or being a tourist during the summer may also be doing it on the weekend, rather than summer break. There might, however, be other content that does fit here. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:16, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm adding Category:Holiday camps to this discussion, because I think it has the same issue as my original point. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:34, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
stale discussion. It is a difficult CFD, but just some notices:
- enwiki en:vacation says: vacation (American English), or holiday (British English), is a leave of absence from a regular job.
- Category:Vacations is redirected to Category:Tourism
- Category:Summer vacation (enwiki en:summer vacation = summer break)
- Category:Summer holidays (enwiki has also en:Category:Summer holidays)