Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/02/Category:Six and nine

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Category:Six and nine

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Is there a benefit to this category? To note the ways to distinguish 6 from 9 when "up" is unclear. We don't have Category:b, p and d. Could we at least phrase it better? Themightyquill (talk) 10:49, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To me the title means showing the numbers six and nine together, which some of the images have. I don't see other categories for pairs of numbers, though, so maybe it is for what you say. With some of the images, only one of the two numbers is shown and you can tell which is intended. Where you can't tell, I would just leave the number off. In any case, I don't see the need for a category with this name. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:14, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think benefit. Other possible also, Bingo balls or Lottery card etc. Why is such fuzzy category name, The reason there are 2 type.
1. Underlining - "File:Orange, 10-sided die.jpg", 2. Underdotting "File:D14 cuboctahedron.JPG". But, It may be necessary, This category rename. --Benzoyl (talk) 01:47, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I agree with you both individually. If it's for images of 6 and 9 together, then we drop images which only show one number. If it's for "methods of differentiating between 6 and 9" (whether underlining or underdotting) then we should rename to something like Category:Differentiation between 6 and 9 and remove images which don't include any features like this. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:21, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Differentiation between 6 and 9 - I think that very good. --Benzoyl (talk) 11:57, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If Category:Six and nine abolished, How does the parent category? --Benzoyl (talk) 01:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The differentiation rename suggestion sounds good to me. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:56, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The creation of Category:6 with underlining and Category:9 with underlining makes overcategorization (parents and grandchildren) difficult to avoid. Maybe we should keep those two, but rename Category:Differentiation between 6 and 9 to Category:Differentiation between similar characters or something like that? - Themightyquill (talk) 15:02, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If Category:6 with underlining and Category:9 with underlining be "kept", rename (these parent category=) Category:Differentiation between 6 and 9 to (more broad sense name=) Category:Differentiation between similar characters that’s fine (I think so too.). --Benzoyl (talk) 05:53, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Because there was Category:Slashed zero, I Created Category:Differentiation between similar characters.
I agree merge Category:Differentiation between 6 and 9 to Category:Differentiation between similar characters. --Benzoyl (talk) 06:11, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If the issue is telling them apart, then I don't think this is arbitrary. Someone might want to illustrate methods for distinguishing between the two numbers when you can't control what direction they'll be viewed from. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:16, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Couldn't this also apply to "d", "p" and "b" and "n" and "u" and "w" and "m". Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:47, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Those rarely appear in contexts where they need to be told apart, but if we have such images, then yes. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:38, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

stale discussion. @Themightyquill, Auntof6, Crouch, Swale, and Benzoyl: any new ideas? At least Category:Differentiation between 6 and 9 seems to acceptable. One reason, why I want to delete the nominated category, is that it encourages to create similar ones, eg "One and six", "Two and four" etc, and these definitely are not acceptable per Commons category naming policy--Estopedist1 (talk) 13:36, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If there is a sub category that points to keeping this one, if not the sub category should probably be deleted first. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:42, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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