Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/11/Category:Men handshakes
I recommend changing this category to Category:Men shaking hands rather than Category:Men handshakes. Reguyla (talk) 18:27, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- And Category:Women handshakes and Category:Man and woman handshakes as well I suppose? --Achim (talk) 18:41, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- You're right good catch. Reguyla (talk) 19:17, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- Also Category:Adults and children handshakes. And what does Category:Handshakes shooting mean?
- I recommend the format "Men shaking hands with men" to make it clear that both parties are men. The others could be "Men shaking hands with women", "Women shaking hands with women", and "Adults shaking hands with children". I can do these changes later today if no one objects or gets to it first. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:58, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- That seems like overcat to me. Does it really matter who they are shaking hands with? Do we really need that level of granularity? I'm not really objecting, I just wonder if they are needed. Reguyla (talk) 20:04, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- It's possible that someone could be looking for something that specific to illustrate something. There certainly seem to be enough files in the subcats to justify having them. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:59, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
- That seems like overcat to me. Does it really matter who they are shaking hands with? Do we really need that level of granularity? I'm not really objecting, I just wonder if they are needed. Reguyla (talk) 20:04, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Achim55: I'm guessing Category:Handshakes shooting means posed handshakes, which is similarly (though I guess, not exactly) served by Category:Looking at viewer handshakes. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:51, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
- I agree Category:Men shaking hands (Category:Males shaking hands ?). Thanks for the good idea. --Benzoyl (talk) 23:14, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- "wikt:handshake sounds (more) like a noun, hence "male"—generally an adjective is better than "man". wikt:handshaking sounds more like a verb, hence nouns such as "men," "women," "people," and "adults" seem better. I suppose Category:Handshakes by men; and Category:Handshakes by women might be more searchable; after which we can have:
- "wikt:handshake sounds (more) like a noun, hence "male"—generally an adjective is better than "man". wikt:handshaking sounds more like a verb, hence nouns such as "men," "women," "people," and "adults" seem better. I suppose Category:Handshakes by men; and Category:Handshakes by women might be more searchable; after which we can have:
Category:Men shaking hands with men
Category:Men shaking hands with children
Category:Women shaking hands with men
Category:Women shaking hands with children
Category:Men and women shaking hands [implicitly at least a man and a woman shaking each other's hand]
Category:Adults shaking hands with children
Category:Cosplay handshakes
Category:Nude or partially nude people shaking hands
199.7.156.128 01:15, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Klare Strukturierung bei Wiki Commons führt zwar zu mehr Kategorien, aber zu besser Klarheit! - Es macht einfach keinen Sinn alles in eine Kategorie hineinzuwerfen, die dann hoffnungslos überfüllt ist. Die bessere und klarere Struktur ist - Händeschütteln (Mann - Frau) - (Frau - Frau) (Mann - Mann)! - Das ist eine - und meine Sichtweise dazu! - Liebe Grüße vom ---Lupus in Saxonia (talk) 07:49, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- Da auch eine Benenennung zur klaren Strukturierung in deutscher Sprache in Frage gestellt wird, bitte ich um dienliche Hineweise wie falsch und sachlich unrichtige "Überfüllung" vorhandener Wiki Commons Kategogorien in der Zukunft erfolgen kann! - Liebe Grüße vom --Lupus in Saxonia (talk) 15:56, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
I agree on the suggested changes here. The question was raised almost five years ago, when will the discussion be closed? Ove Raul (talk) 07:33, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Ove Raul: it seems to be not an easy discussion. I tried to start harmonizing but immediately stucked with Category:Men shaking hands with women vs Category:Women shaking hands with men, aren't these two categories actually same? Suspicious is also proposed Category:Men and women shaking hands--Estopedist1 (talk) 16:20, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
- i agree on the system proposed above too, except as Estopedist1 said, men and women shaking hands should all be under a single cat "Men and women shaking hands". there's no preference as to whether men or women are the subject (grammar). the order is alphabetical, hence m before w. RZuo (talk) 07:08, 30 January 2023 (UTC)